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RE: Critical info (was Upgrading...)
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 11 Jan '07

11 Jan '07

You mean to say "Are you paranoid if they really are out to get you." ________________________________ From: Oren Beck Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:09 PM "Is it paranoia if there REALLY are hostile people in your daily world intent on catching you at something-or fabricating it- so they can justify their salary?"

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Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 30, Issue 10
by Shannon Miller 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Give Xara Extreme a try.. http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ On Fri, 2007-01-05 at 13:37 -0600, kclug-request(a)kclug.org wrote: > It's interesting that "artist" was mentioned. I have resorted to > using wine > for art programs on linux. One of those programs which i have come to > love > because of the freedom (not free, but free to draw/paint) is > ArtRage. > Wonderfull program, a free version and the pay version is only 20.00. > > That brings me to my next question, outside of gimp, are there other > "artistic" programs for linux that compares to the quality of art > programs > on windows?

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RE: Upgrading from FC4 to Kubuntu???
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

This is exactly why I keep a separate /home directory. You can always slap it in another system and copy it over or wipe the other partitions and reinstall and all your crap is still there. Some of your dot files may need to be deleted, but should still work with newer program versions. You shouldn't need /var unless you put stuff like your website in there or files for FTP or mail files. Since I use web mail and have FTP directory on another drive that is not a problem. I only save /home before a new system load. And I do back that up prior to reload, usually. I've only had to save it from the dead once by breathing life back into the partition table, but then I like a good resurrection every now and then. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Jon Moss > >Since Fedora Legacy Project has gone belly up, I've been >rethinking what to do with the workstation my daughter (a high >school senior soon to be college >student) uses. It currently has FC4 installed. I'd like to >move her to Ubuntu (specifically kubuntu because she likes >KDE) but I'm not sure if I can "upgrade" to it from FC4. I'm >going to backup all of her files and photos to a CD or DVD, >but I'm afraid I'm going to miss something (and I'd rather not >back up the entire hard drive if I don't have to since the OS >or distro won't matter any longer). > >Has anyone ever done this? Upgrade from one distro to another? > >Or do I have to just wipe the hard drive and start from >scratch (like I would if it had Windows XP installed)? > >Happy New Year! > >Jon Moss

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RE: Subversion (svn)
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

With that kind of stuff, you need to make suggestions, discuss, decide, then issue a change order/control, then implement, as opposed to suggest, then change order about 5 min-1 hour before implement at 5 pm. Sometimes that is what they do in our bldg with XP patches handed down from on high. Not good when you create more problems for other people. We just say "Thank You I/O Lab in Ft. Collins, CO." >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Pruente >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:08 PM > >As I understand it they've got some big iron off 435 and 63rd >for a main data center. They've got a second, fail over, site >in St. Louis that they physically test once a month (as in >kill connections here and see if STL picks up) and a whole >bunch of smaller setups all over. > They've got some machines that have been *on* for about 30 >years. I really do hope they've got good security too, but >with their history in the industry, I think they do. I'm >fairly sure that's why my friends project only made the >suggestion of what to change, and would allow the local admin >for each machine to have the final decision of what to change. > >Jon. >

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Gentoo
by Jonathan Hutchins 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Just clear up the impression of the personal dig, I don't hate Gentoo. It's interesting and amusing, and true to it's "ricer" image it's great fun to tinker with and tweak, to solve those little puzzles it's always throwing at you. Sometimes I'm in the mood for that, and I enjoy it. At other times, though, I require my computer to be a tool I use for work, and I don't want to be interrupted and to have to spend two days tracking down why sound failed _this_ time, just so I can have tunes while I work. (Or worse yet, why X won't run when I need something that's in an X-based app.) I think gentoo's advantages are mostly imagined and/or exaggerated. I notice this is frequently from people who like to spread FUD about RedHat, or binary distros in general. While I don't like where the RedHat distros are right now, I think they're a very valid, useful, valuable way to do things if you just need a system that does it's job. Unlike a majority of the LUG members, I don't write code, for a living or for fun. I know six mostly obsolete programming languages, and I can make scripts do some pretty amazing things, but I don't code. That means that some things that are important to coders aren't as important to me. I mainly mean to advocate the good qualities of binary distributions in general, and RPM based systems in particular. I mean to correct some of the exaggerated claims so that people who haven't tried gentoo or an RPM distro aren't misled.

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Re: Subversion (svn)
by Jared Jennings 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

I haven't been following the whole thread very well, but I do know that Novell's Identity Manager product, or even Access Manager 3, could resolve a lot of the issues very nicely. Jared >>> "David Nicol" <davidnicol(a)gmail.com> 01/09/07 2:19 PM >>> On 1/9/07, Jon Pruente <jdpruente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > tell the sysadmins what to change on the hundreds/thousands of systems > they have to consolidate and unify UIDs. It was then up the the > admins to make changes as needed so that it wouldn't break anything > during the process. > > Jon. The argument against unifying UIDs accross your enterprise is that it allows for security holes to become larger. Hopefully DST has some continuing intrusion monitoring in place before (or at least contemporaneously with) their unification effort.

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Motherboards for sale
by Joe Brouhard 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

I have a pair of motherboards here that I would like to get rid of. here they are. ECS 741GX-M Motherboard with AMD Athlon 750Mhz Processor Onboard Video, Onboard Sound, ONboard NIC Has 1 AGP slot, 3 PCI slots Supports 2 DDR RAM strips and ATA133 Hard Drives. Gigabyte GA-6BXC Motherboard w/ Intel Pentium III 400Mhz Processor 256MB SDRAM Comes w/ a ATI Radeon AGP Card (not sure, low end card), 3Com NIC card. 4PCI, 3 ISA and 1 AGP slots. I have two sound cards available for sale as well. Neither board comes with a case. I'm asking for $100 for the ATHLON board and processor. I'll throw in a nVidia GeForce MX 440 AGP card for an additional $20. I'm also willing to throw in an SCSI Card and 18GB IBM SCSI drive to either machine for an additional $20. I have a Sony CDRW but I cannot guarantee it's burn capabilities. Haven't tersted that thing in years, and I don't have any cd burn utilities on the debian box that it runs off of right now installed. Will test it later tonight tho. $10 if it works Would like to get rid of these machines before weekend. Thanks -- Joe Brouhard jbrouhard(a)gmail.com

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WoW on Wine - Blizzard Still Banning?
by Jon Moss 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Well, I got some new hardware (completely "new" Dell 270) and got kubuntu installed. Got Gimp and Wine installed as well. My daughter, who this computer is for, plays WoW, but usually on her brother's computer, which is a Windows XP workstation. I asked her for the WoW CD so I could attempt to get it working under wine (I found some good howtos so wanted to see if it would work). She told me flat out not to do that because Blizzard will ban your account, claiming you are cheating, using 3rd party applications (bots) if you run WoW on Linux. I found a few old articles on this, but also found one where Blizzard unbanned the Cedega users (but nothing about wine). Is this still the case? I don't want my daughter's account to get banned just because I'm curious and want to see if I can actually get this to work. I don't play grpahics RPGs. I'm stuck happily MUDding. Later, Jon Moss __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: in case the Bartle Hall extension fails when needed
by Jared 09 Jan '07

09 Jan '07

Hey! The Mossad wrote back! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: YOUR REQUEST HAS BEEN REGISTERED. Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:55:34 +0200 From: <mohr(a)tehila.gov.il> To: <jared(a)hatwhite.com> YOUR REQUEST HAS BEEN REGISTERED. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONTACT US. THIS MESSAGE APPEARS AUTOMATICALLY WHEN REGISTRATION IS COMPLETE. THERE IS NO NEED TO SEND THE MESSAGE AGAIN. THANK YOU.

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in case the Bartle Hall extension fails when needed
by David Nicol 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

http://www.wildlife-traps.com/godzilla.html -- pre-Α, Α, Β, rc, release.

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