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[Fwd: [Musical Progress]Live Webcast from Toto's on April 8]
by Jim Herrmann 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

I thought you Linux geeks might be interested in this webcast that KCLUG member Michael Morgan will be doing of my show (and my son Tommy) on April 8 from Toto's Coffeehouse. A huge thanks to my friend Michael for handling this webcast. Thanks very much Michael! Thanks also go out to Cymor a.k.a. Chris for hosting the feed. Thanks guys. This should be fun! BTW, some of my music is available under a Creative Commons license at my website listed below. Enjoy! Peace, Jim Herrmann -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Musical Progress]Live Webcast from Toto's on April 8 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 00:53:21 -0500 From: jim(a)musicalprogress.org To: jim(a)musicalprogress.org We are going to be doing a live audio webcast from Toto's Coffeehouse on April 8. You'll be able to listen in at one of these two web addresses starting at 7:00 p.m. on Saturday April 8, 2006. http://www.cymor.com:8000/live http://www.cymor.com:8000/live.m3u The plan is to have video available for download sometime after the show. When that is available, I will post a link here. So, if you can't make it out to the show, you can listen in from your computer, any where in the world. If you can make it to the show, please come and be a part of the live audience for this broadcast. The above message can be found here: http://jim.musicalprogress.org/Webcast04082006 You'll see it if you just go to the front page: http://jim.musicalprogress.org Peace, Jim

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RE: Timing Geek alert
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

>From my brother the math teacher: Actually it has already happened 2000 years ago in the year 6 AD. It is now 2006 so it does not quite work out. 01:02:03 04/05/06 should be 01:02:03 04/05/2006. This is the state of our mathematics. Groan, Phil Kelsay Mathematics Teacher ________________________________ From: On Behalf Of Arthur Pemberton Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:04 PM I don't get it? Am I not geek enough? On 4/4/06, David Nicol wrote: forwarded message: For those of you who like to have your time lined up like ducks in a row: Wednesday at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00AM, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06 Bill Jaeck -- David L Nicol

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Microsoft and Malware
by Leo Mauler 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

Saw this article through a /. link. Seems Microsoft feels that people should adopt another operating system, such as Linux, which rarely has trouble with malware. I mean, "Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible [with the Windows OS]". http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1945808,00.asp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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RE: Update on Ubuntu and my Church Laptop
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

OK, no. You need to look on the Ubuntu forums about the media or multimedia support or wmv support or MS codec support. You will likely need to make an addition to your /etc/apt/sources.list, which is a text file that holds the list of repositories that your PC uses. You will have to make an entry for some location that has the codecs you need. http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+forum+wmv+support&start=0&ie=utf-8 &oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official Yields: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/essential-house-keeping-in-ubuntu. html Read the comments also. >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Moss >Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:45 AM >To: Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO >Cc: kclug >Subject: RE: Update on Ubuntu and my Church Laptop > >I ran the easyubuntu script. However, I still can't play WMV >and ASF files. Should I try running the script again? > >> >> You should be able to get the windows codec package and be able to >> play those with either mplayer or VLC (Videolan.org). For >> Debian-based systems I've used a foreign repo called marillat or >> something close to that, but since you are using Ubuntu, looks like >> you should be able to get this via universe or multiverse >repository. >> Look into that easy Ubuntu install link that was sent in the >original Ubuntu thread. >> >> I tried yesterday to download the DVD.iso of Kubuntu and I got a 550 >> error, unable to change directory. I'm getting it now from the >> European mirror. >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: On Behalf Of Jon Moss >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:10 AM >> >>><Snip> >>> >>>I've been able to play DVDs, CDs, PowerPoints (via Impress of >>>course) and some web media (but not WMVs or ASFs). Since we don't >>>have Internet access at the church, I'm not too worried about the >>>latter. >>> >>>The DVD playback is a little choppy so I need to investigate >how much >>>RAM was "donated" with the laptop. And that may not make a >difference >>>. . . >>>may just be the age of the laptop or the norm for Totem Movie player. >>> >>><Snip> >> >>>Later, >>> >>>Jon Moss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kclug mailing list >> Kclug(a)kclug.org >> http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug >> > > >-- >Thanks very much, > >Jon Moss >jon.moss(a)cnonline.net > > >

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TV cards
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

In relation to MythTV or Freevo, say I get a Hauppage PVR-150, http://www.spoofee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30751 , now $59 after rebate...the "125-channel cable-ready tuner" doesn't allow you to get the upper channels that you get thru digital cable. Mine goes to some large number though I don't have them all, but specifically HBO resides in the 300-312 range. Will one of these allow you to get the digital cable channels without being connected to a cable box and how do you get the upper channels?

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RE: Update on Ubuntu and my Church Laptop
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

You should be able to get the windows codec package and be able to play those with either mplayer or VLC (Videolan.org). For Debian-based systems I've used a foreign repo called marillat or something close to that, but since you are using Ubuntu, looks like you should be able to get this via universe or multiverse repository. Look into that easy Ubuntu install link that was sent in the original Ubuntu thread. I tried yesterday to download the DVD.iso of Kubuntu and I got a 550 error, unable to change directory. I'm getting it now from the European mirror. >-----Original Message----- >From: On Behalf Of Jon Moss >Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:10 AM ><Snip> > >I've been able to play DVDs, CDs, PowerPoints (via Impress of >course) and some web media (but not WMVs or ASFs). Since we >don't have Internet access at the church, I'm not too worried >about the latter. > >The DVD playback is a little choppy so I need to investigate >how much RAM was "donated" with the laptop. And that may not >make a difference . . . >may just be the age of the laptop or the norm for Totem Movie player. > ><Snip> >Later, > >Jon Moss >

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Fwd: Timing Geek alert
by David Nicol 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

forwarded message: For those of you who like to have your time lined up like ducks in a row: Wednesday at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00AM, the time and date will be 01:02:03 04/05/06 Bill Jaeck -- David L Nicol Should the bike shed have bunks? Or maybe cots?

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Re: Fwd: Timing Geek alert
by mike＠handuma.com 05 Apr '06

05 Apr '06

It'll happen twice that day am and pm >forwarded message: > >For those of you who like to have your time lined up like ducks in a row: >Wednesday at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00AM, the time and >date will be >01:02:03 04/05/06 >Bill Jaeck > >-- >David L Nicol >Should the bike shed have bunks? Or maybe cots? >_______________________________________________ >Kclug mailing list >Kclug(a)kclug.org >http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug > > > http://www.handuma.com

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RE: Ubuntu and Kubuntu vs. Mepis
by Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO 04 Apr '06

04 Apr '06

The article that got me thinking about this is here: http://www.mepis.org/node/9454 They are even raising the SimplyMepis version to 6.0 to match the Ubuntu release number. This was probably a natural progression from the DCC Alliance joining. http://www.dccalliance.org/ More below. >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Bruno >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:17 AM > >Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote: >> Who in our group is actually using these distros? I'm interested in >> the ease of updating and stability after doing so compared to Mepis, >> HDD installed Knoppix and regular Debian or any other >Debian-based distro. >> >> I've tried tons of LiveCDs, used Mepis quite a bit and never had >> success with plain old Debian installing as a desktop. I like Mepis >> out of the box, though like any distro you find little bits >that don't >> work or you don't like. Mepis is switching to the Ubuntu >repositories with the next release, in order to get more stable updates. >> >being no difference between ubuntu and kubuntu at all except >the default install. ( you can even have both installed even) >ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages. > >I've been using dapper drake since about the mid of Feb.. it is amazing. >Love it. Hardware just works, stuff just works, and its sweet. >I use Kubuntu, but I login to the Ubuntu gnome stuff just to >see how it is going with development. I've had no stability >problems at all, even in this beta stage. Plus, with k/ubuntu >you get a lot of software that is used but "not included" in >Debian when you enable universe and multiverse repo's as well >as backports. What are universe and multiverse repos? Does K/Ubuntu use apt-pinning? Does this interfere or limit what packages you install to them? I may have run into a similar problem that Jhutchins had with his Gentoo and the Wacom crap the other day. I try to remove some package from Mepis that I will never use. E.g. Gtkpod for ipod support, and a whole crap load of stuff is going to be removed by apt-get. Makes it hard to gain space my removing what you don't need. Or do a apt-get update and upgrade and a whole slew of stuff stops working right.

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Fwd: Laptop for Church - Which Distro
by Arthur Pemberton 04 Apr '06

04 Apr '06

On 4/3/06, Jason D. Clinton <me(a)jasonclinton.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 21:19 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > - Fedora comes with both Gnome and KDE (I prefer and use the later) > > > KDE is a second class citizen in Fedora, but okay. > I support that statement. However, besides everyone I know personally who uses Fedora, Linux uses KDE on Fedora. So KDE isn't that badly off in the Fedora world. - Supposedly the Gnome desktop comes with some killer Mono apps, I am not > ure of this. > > > Yea, it does (I agregate a few Fedora developer blogs). All distros do. > Fedora has nothing unique to it with regard to Gnome other than its theme. > I agree with you there also. Wasn't impling otherwise. - Fedora comes with a package manager, arguably not the best, but it does > use RPM for its packaging, and any and all package managers that handle RPMs > will work on Fedora, and many infact are already packaged for Fedora. For > interface, Fedora uses yum (console app) and has many available GUIs > packaged for Yum ( I do not use one myself, no need) > > > Erm, no. Yum is a third party development which was originally designed > for Yellow Dog. Yum is also a second class citizen in Fedora and only works > because someone maintains a Yum repository with the latest Fedora sources in > it. In fact, if you were to use the built-in package manager and then use > Yum, the results would be undefined. > Yum is the suggested, and primary method of software installtion and management for Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-eeb72f8986226805f39306991a88c2848d80… Yum is a 1st class citizen, to use your metaphor. It works because that is the main (only ?) method of package distribution for Fedora. The built in package manager is Yum, or are you refering to the little GUI tool that allows you uninstall/install things that are on the CD media. The title of the window it brings up is a tad deceiving, the only packages that manages are what come from the install media. The result of using both are wholly predictable: no problem. And you can't just wave your hands and say that package dependency problems > don't happen; > Well it was more like moving my fingers across the keyboard. And the only time I hear of that happening these days is when people use 3rd party epos that are known to conflict with each other. As it is, I have nine third party repos setup with my yum. I only use 4 of them. (in addition to the Fedora repos themsevles) when you introduce third party RPMS, they do. And sometimes they can be a > real bitch to fix -- without a nice dep. resolver like yum, you could get a > real headache. > Very much agreed. Which is why I asked whether there was an 'official' way dealing with it but > I gather, now, that there isn't. > Well you are free to ignore me telling you that yum is the package manager used by Fedora. - last I remember, it took 5 third party RPMS , all installed via Yum to > give me full multimedia support, infact I think I have that in a bash script > somewhere. > > > Unless one of those RPM's contains more than one of the following and does > a 'provides' so that they appear to be installed to other packages: > > Sun Java > Macromedia Flash > Nvidia/ATI driver > Ndiswrapper > Xvid > FFMPEG > x264 > lame/mad/mpg12321 > rte > libdvdcss > libavcodec > faad/faac > [a gstreamer binding to each of the above, usually each a seperate > package] > etc. etc. > I forgot to consider Flash the first time, but I would stil stick to my original estimate. Also, didn't consider Java at all, not the proprietary binaries as least. I have them installed, but that was too long ago to remember details except that I followed some simple instructions from one of the Fedora websites. Right now my Fedora handles more codecs than the last few Windows XP i have used. MytvTV is also fun. - I might be ignorant on the installer options, what options did you need > that were missing? I haven't ran into such a lack there of, but that is just > me, my needs may be different from yours. > > > Based on the FC5 screen shots on OSDir it appears that most of the options > are now available versus what I experience with the 4.92 preview release. > I think it was 4.93 that I installed, can't say that there was anything noticeable missing. - Two unique aspect of Fedora I would regard as: 1) Built in SELinux support > (great for servers) , 2) system-config tools good for mid level users and > quick configuring > > > SELinux is nice, yes, I missed that. Where are these system-config tools > you speak of? > Nice little (most PyGTK based) configuration apps: system-config-bind system-config-boot system-config-control system-config-date system-config-display system-config-httpd system-config-keyboard system-config-language system-config-kickstart system-config-lvm system-config-mouse system-config-netboot system-config-network system-config-network-tui system-config-nfs system-config-packages system-config-printer system-config-printer-gui system-config-rootpassword system-config-samba system-config-securitylevel system-config-securitylevel-tui system-config-services system-config-soundcard system-config-users - Most of the dues go to the actual software, but FC has been a more than > adequate desktop OS for me since FC3 (when I put away Windows for it) > > > I sure that it has but probably mostly because KDE does what you want it > to do; not really Fedora's work at all. > I do not disagree with this. But isn't that part of the definition of the distro? Most of the software on any real Linux distro is available to any other distro. I like Fedora because I started with RedHat 8.0 and It has always been better than enough for me. And I generally like the community around it also. -- > Jason D. Clinton <me(a)jasonclinton.com> > -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins. -- As a boy I jumped through Windows, as a man I play with Penguins.

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